Legislature(2021 - 2022)GRUENBERG 120

02/25/2022 01:30 PM House JUDICIARY

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                    HB 325-DOMESTIC VIOLENCE                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:13:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 325, "An Act relating to domestic violence."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:13:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SARA  RASMUSSEN,  Alaska  State  Legislature,  as                                                               
prime sponsor,  presented HB 325.   She stated that HB  325 would                                                               
incorporate image-based  sexual abuse,  which may be  referred to                                                               
as "revenge  porn," into the  definition of domestic  violence so                                                               
it could be prosecuted as harassment in the second degree.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:14:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRYSTAL  KOENEMAN, Staff,  Representative Sara  Rasmussen, Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  on behalf of Representative  Rasmussen, prime                                                               
sponsor,  addressed the  proposed HB  325.   She pointed  out the                                                               
definition related  to explicit images contained  in the statute,                                                               
which defines  harassment in  the second  degree, would  be moved                                                               
into  AS  18.66.990  (3), which  defines  domestic  violence  and                                                               
crimes  involving  domestic  violence.     She  stated  that  the                                                               
proposed  legislation  would  not  modify the  definition  as  it                                                               
pertains  to explicit  images and  distributing them.   It  would                                                               
only move the  definition into the domestic  violence statutes so                                                               
it can be used to protect victims.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:16:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LOREE MORTON,  Advocacy Initiatives  Director, Alaska  Network on                                                               
Domestic Violence and Sexual  Assault, provided invited testimony                                                               
in support  of HB  325.   She stated that  the Alaska  Network on                                                               
Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault  (ANDVSA) supports adding to                                                               
the domestic violence  statute this element of  harassment in the                                                               
second degree.  She stated  that, per the proposed legislation, a                                                               
crime  involving domestic  violence would  include publishing  or                                                               
distributing  electronic  or  printed photographs,  pictures,  or                                                               
films which show  the genitals, anus, or female  breast(s) of the                                                               
other person,  or show  a person  engaged in a  sexual act.   She                                                               
expressed the opinion that abusers  will use any means to control                                                               
partners  and  to  coerce  partners into  doing,  or  not  doing,                                                               
certain things, to  benefit the abuser.  She stated  that the use                                                               
of  the  media  described could  cause  ridicule,  embarrassment,                                                               
shame, and  degradation.  She  suggested that this could  be used                                                               
to keep the victim trapped in an abusive situation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:18:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SNYDER  expressed   the  understanding  that  the                                                               
sharing  of  such images  is  already  a  crime,  but it  is  not                                                               
considered a crime of domestic violence.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. KOENEMAN confirmed this as correct.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SNYDER  questioned  whether there  would  be  any                                                               
changes in penalty or punishment.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RASMUSSEN  answered  that  the  important  change                                                               
would be victims could petition for a restraining order.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:20:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KACI  SCHROEDER, Assistant  Attorney General,  Criminal Division,                                                               
Department of  Law, provided  invited testimony on  HB 325.   She                                                               
stated that  the crime  of domestic violence  is used  in several                                                               
areas  of  law,   including  criminal  law  and   the  filing  of                                                               
protective orders.   She offered an example of  an individual who                                                               
may interfere with the reporting  of a crime of domestic violence                                                               
and,  should HB  325 pass,  the use  of images  could be  used as                                                               
evidence of  this crime.   She stated that  the crime would  be a                                                               
Class  B misdemeanor,  and the  sentence would  not change.   She                                                               
stated that  mandatory minimum sentences  for crimes  of domestic                                                               
violence exist, such as those  involving assault.  She noted that                                                               
special  provisions  exist for  bail  associated  with crimes  of                                                               
domestic violence at the time of arraignment.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHROEDER, in  response to  a  question from  Representative                                                               
Vance, stated that  for a court to issue a  protective order, the                                                               
court would  have to find that  a crime of domestic  violence had                                                               
occurred,  and  it  would  refer to  the  underlying  statute  to                                                               
determine whether the conduct had  amounted to domestic violence.                                                               
In response  to a follow-up  question regarding how  a protective                                                               
order could add protection against  the use of images, she stated                                                               
that a  court could  order an  individual not  to commit  a crime                                                               
against  a person,  and any  continued behavior  could result  in                                                               
additional criminal charges.   She added that  there would likely                                                               
be a provision of no contact issued.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:23:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN questioned  the definition of "publishing"                                                               
or "distributing," as referred to in the proposed legislation.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER  answered that the definition  of publishing exists                                                               
on the  internet, as it does  in other statutes.   She added that                                                               
the Webster's  Dictionary is used  to define terms which  are not                                                               
already defined in statute.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  asked  whether "distribution"  would  be                                                               
considered  if   images  are  only   distributed  to   one  other                                                               
individual.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER  answered that the  material would not  be required                                                               
to  be  widely distributed.    She  added that  "distributes"  is                                                               
defined in 11.61.116, which pertains  to distributing an explicit                                                               
image of  a minor.    This means to  deliver an image  by sending                                                               
the image to another person's computer or telephone.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:25:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  noted that  the definition  would include                                                               
both  electronic  and  print  [format].     He  posited  that  an                                                               
individual may attempt  to contact a minor's parent  to alert the                                                               
parent to  the image  being distributed.    He  expressed concern                                                               
that this could result in  the concerned party having committed a                                                               
crime.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER  clarified that the  example pertains  to children;                                                               
therefore, it is associated with  a different statute.  She added                                                               
that this would not concern domestic  violence.  She added, for a                                                               
crime  to  have occurred,  the  perpetrator  would have  had  the                                                               
intent  to harass  or  annoy the  victim.   She  stated that  the                                                               
previous example  could be  an indication  a crime  had occurred,                                                               
and  this would  require  evidence  of the  mental  state of  the                                                               
individual  sharing the  explicit  image with  the  parent.   She                                                               
added that  an individual sharing  an image out of  concern would                                                               
not be an intent to harass or annoy.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RASMUSSEN  added  that,   in  cases  of  domestic                                                               
violence, the  abuser is often  engaged in acts to  manipulate or                                                               
coerce  the  victim.     She  offered  an  example   in  which  a                                                               
perpetrator threatens  to share,  or does  share, the  image with                                                               
the  victim's  employer.   She  reiterated  that distributing  it                                                               
solely to one person would meet the definition of harassment.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:31:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SNYDER,   using   the   hypothetical   situation                                                               
involving an  explicit image of a  16-year-old person, questioned                                                               
whether the  definition of  domestic violence  would be  met when                                                               
the  concerned  party  is  not  a  member  of  the  16-year-old's                                                               
household.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHROEDER  answered  that  for  a  crime  to  be  considered                                                               
"domestic violence," the  perpetrator is required to  be a member                                                               
of  the victim's  household.   She  noted that  if a  16-year-old                                                               
person is  annoyed because a  parent is notified, this  would not                                                               
amount to the intent to harass or annoy the victim.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  expressed  the  understanding  that  the                                                               
proposed  definition  would exclude  a  15-year-old  victim.   He                                                               
questioned why it would pertain to a 16-year-old individual.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KOENEMAN   answered  that  any   [explicit]  images   of  an                                                               
individual under  the age  of 16 would  fall under  AS 11.61.116,                                                               
which addresses the explicit images of minors.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked whether  the sponsor's intent is for                                                               
crimes  associated with  a 16-year-old  individual be  considered                                                               
domestic violence, while those  associated with individuals under                                                               
the age of 16 not be considered domestic violence.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RASMUSSEN  answered that HB 325  would not address                                                               
the  age  of  consent  in   statute,  but  it  would  update  the                                                               
associated  statute  to  include   the  increased  prevalence  of                                                               
electronic  images and  videos and  how  this distribution  would                                                               
make the victim embarrassed or ashamed.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   EASTMAN  restated   his  question,   asking  why                                                               
individuals  under the  age  of  16 would  be  excluded from  the                                                               
definition of domestic violence [in the proposed bill].                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. KOENEMAN  answered that the  distribution of these  images is                                                               
already in  statute, and HB  325 would  not make changes  to this                                                               
existing statute.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:38:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE questioned  the frequency  of this  type of                                                               
behavior,  and  she  questioned   whether  it  occurs  enough  to                                                               
establish the proposed bill.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:39:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  HENRY, Sargeant,  Alaska State  Troopers, Department  of                                                               
Public Safety  (DPS), provided invited  testimony on HB 325.   He                                                               
stated that  DPS has conducted  an audit to  determine statistics                                                               
related to  harassment, and the law  contains approximately eight                                                               
subsections under which  there were 180 instances.   He cautioned                                                               
that the information provided was an estimate.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN  asked whether  the  180  cases of  harassment  had                                                               
included  first- and  second-degree charges.   He  questioned the                                                               
timeframe of the charges.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SERGEANT  HENRY answered  that the  statistics include  data from                                                               
2012 to  the present, with  the charges filed under  AS 11.61.128                                                               
(6).   He noted that some  of those reported had  been improperly                                                               
coded.   He  stated  that  a separate  audit  has been  conducted                                                               
regarding  cases  which  resulted  in  charges  filed,  and  this                                                               
totaled  nine  incidents.    He  offered  to  follow  up  to  the                                                               
committee with additional research, if needed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. KOENEMAN  added that crimes  involving domestic  violence are                                                               
severely underreported, as reasons exist  for victims to not come                                                               
forward.  She suggested the  absence of statistics supporting the                                                               
need for  the bill  does not  equate to  less of  a need  for the                                                               
protections in law.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:43:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE  referred to page  1 of a  document entitled                                                               
"HB  325 Supporting  Documents 2.17.2022.pdf,"  [included in  the                                                               
committee  packet]  which  depicts  "revenge  porn"  as  illegal,                                                               
noting, "1  in 3 victims  of sextortion  in a 2017  online survey                                                               
said  they had  never told  anyone, largely  because of  shame or                                                               
embarrassment."  She asked whether  there exists a legal loophole                                                               
and whether this is the reason for the proposed legislation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KOENEMAN answered that this  type of harassment is illegal in                                                               
Alaska under criminal harassment statute,  but it is not included                                                               
in  the domestic  violence statute.   She  stated that,  when the                                                               
court is  seeking to  determine if a  crime of  domestic violence                                                               
between  household  members  has occurred,  a  domestic  violence                                                               
protective order could be issued based on such conduct.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SNYDER  asked whether  the primary purpose  of the                                                               
proposed   bill  would   be  to   include  the   publication  and                                                               
distribution of  explicit images, so  individuals may file  for a                                                               
protective order under the domestic violence statute.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. KOENEMAN  answered yes,  and it  would provide  victims legal                                                               
assurance that the conduct qualifies as domestic violence.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SNYDER,  in  cases  that  involve  teenagers  not                                                               
sharing  a  household with  the  perpetrator,  asked whether  [an                                                               
individual  between the  ages of  16  to 18]  would file  charges                                                               
under the harassment in the second-degree statute.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. KOENEMAN confirmed that the  proposed legislation would apply                                                               
to victims  over the age of  16 and, for those  victims under the                                                               
age of  16, charges  would be filed  under the  child pornography                                                               
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SNYDER  questioned whether there is  a possibility                                                               
of  an individual  being  granted a  protective  order under  the                                                               
harassment in the second-degree statute.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER offered that, in  cases of harassment charges being                                                               
filed, the state would request a  no-contact order at the time of                                                               
the bail hearing.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:48:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN,  regarding the requirement of  the household member                                                               
relationship,  asked  whether  a   next-door  neighbor  could  be                                                               
charged with a crime of domestic violence.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER stated that this  would not fall under the proposed                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN posited  a couple who had lived  together, but since                                                               
split, and one  distributed explicit pictures of  the other after                                                               
the  split.   He  questioned  whether  the perpetrator  could  be                                                               
charged with a crime of domestic violence.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHROEDER answered  that it  could  be a  crime of  domestic                                                               
violence.   She  explained that  household members  include those                                                               
who live together or those who had lived together.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN  posited  a case  which  involves  two  17-year-old                                                               
individuals  in a  dating relationship,  and  one distributed  an                                                               
explicit  picture  of the  other.    He questioned  whether  this                                                               
individual could be charged with a crime of domestic violence.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER stated that the  definition would include those who                                                               
are dating or who have dated.   She emphasized the provision that                                                               
there would  need to  exist the  intent to  harass or  annoy [the                                                               
victim].                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked what bail  considerations would be for someone                                                               
charged  with harassment  under  the  domestic violence  statute,                                                               
compared to a non-domestic violence harassment charge.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHROEDER  answered  that   regarding  release  on  domestic                                                               
violence  cases, under  AS 12.30.027,  the main  consideration is                                                               
whether conditions of release would allow contact or no contact.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked what typical bail  would be set in the case of                                                               
harassment  in  the second  degree,  as  a Class  B  misdemeanor,                                                               
considering one's criminal history.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER answered that, in a  case when the defendant has no                                                               
criminal  history  it  would  likely  be  an  "own  recognizance"                                                               
release and would likely include an order for no contact.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:52:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN expressed  the understanding  that, under                                                               
federal  law,  a misdemeanor  crime  of  domestic violence  could                                                               
result in  a loss of  access to firearms.   He asked  whether the                                                               
proposed bill would result in the same.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER  cautioned that  she is  not familiar  with federal                                                               
law and deferred to DPS.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SERGENT  HENRY offered  to  follow  up to  the  committee with  a                                                               
confirmed answer.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:53:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELLY HOWELL,  Special Assistant to the  Commissioner, Department                                                               
of  Public Safety,  provided invited  testimony on  HB 325.   She                                                               
expressed  the  belief  that,  for   a  crime  to  amount  to  an                                                               
inhibition  to  possess or  purchase  firearms  or ammunition,  a                                                               
crime  involving  domestic  violence  would need  to  include  an                                                               
element of  force.   She offered  to follow  up to  the committee                                                               
with a confirmed answer.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  questioned whether  distributing  images                                                               
would ever involve [the use of] force.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOWELL expressed the belief that  it would not.  She deferred                                                               
to the Department of Law to provide a confirmed answer.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN,  in subsection (6), paragraph  (6) in the                                                               
proposed  legislation, requested  clarity  on  the exception  for                                                               
images  which  do not  involve  nudity.    In response  to  Chair                                                               
Claman,  he  confirmed that  he  was  referring to  the  proposed                                                               
language involving images of a sexual act.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER answered  that the term "sexual act"  is defined in                                                               
AS 11.41.470(6),  and this  is defined  as sexual  penetration or                                                               
sexual contact.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:57:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE questioned  whether  the  accused would  be                                                               
subject to automatic arrest under  the domestic violence statute,                                                               
per the proposed legislation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOWELL  responded that  crimes involving  an act  of domestic                                                               
violence within the preceding 12  hours would result in mandatory                                                               
arrest.  She deferred the question to Sergeant Henry.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SERGEANT HENRY  explained that  after a  crime has  been reported                                                               
and  an investigation  reveals the  existence of  probable cause,                                                               
three criteria  would need to  be met for  an arrest.   He listed                                                               
those  as the  existence of  probable cause,  the crime  occurred                                                               
between household members, and the  crime was within the prior 12                                                               
hours.   He stated that  if all three  had been found  during the                                                               
investigation, a  mandatory arrest would  occur.  If  the alleged                                                               
crime had occurred more than 12  hours prior to the report, or it                                                               
was determined that  the definition of household  members did not                                                               
apply, then a mandatory arrest would not occur.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:59:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN announced that HB 325 was held over.                                                                      

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